I'm always a sucker for a passionate debate on Reddit. It's an age old concept, when you think about it. Coke vs. Pepsi. McDonald's vs. Burger King. Safeway vs. King Soopers. Domino's vs. Pizza Hut (there are other, better choices, by the way). On and on and on the debates can go forever and ever.

So I was particularly intrigued by a thread that popped up on Reddit by u/Hobbitsliketoparty who claimed they had lived in Fort Collins for more than a decade and recently moved to Loveland a few months ago, laying out in detail the differences they observed between the two cities.

I too have lived in both Fort Collins and Loveland - and Greeley too, for that matter - and I found myself nodding along in agreement on a handful of the points they made, in addition to many of the comments that popped up along the way as well.

Here's a handful of the highlights:

In many areas Loveland looks like nothing more than a concrete urban sprawl jungle. Outside of the parks, there are not a lot of trees or beauty to the city. It feels like Cheyenne.

Well, that's a hot take. I'm not sure I'd go that far with making the comparison to Cheyenne, but I guess I could see some similarities of some areas of town.

People in Loveland feel much less friendly than in Fort Collins. A lot of people down here feel angry and rushed.

To be honest, I'm not sure I notice that much of a difference.

FoCo is much more youthful and vibrant, where as Loveland feels much older.

Statistically speaking, I'm pretty sure this is true. As many commenters point out, one of the main defining differences between the two cities is the existence of Colorado State University in Fort Collins. Its mere presence keeps things a bit more youthful and fresher from a development standpoint.

Old Town Loveland has potential, but is pretty boring and dies out after 9pm. Downtown FoCo is far more vibrant and engaging.

Again, I'd argue the university's impact makes all the difference here. I'm used to crush Old Town FoCo in my 20's. Now at 45, I'm more than happy to be done with anything outside of my house by 9 PM. As embarrassing as it is to say that...

The Big Thompson canyon > Poudre Canyon in terms of access and beauty.

Ooh, that's a bold statement there. Though you can't argue with the accessibility of the Big Thompson Canyon vs. the Poudre Canyon. I think the biggest difference there is that it's relatively easy to cruise through the western part of Loveland to get to the mountains whereas getting to the north edge of Fort Collins, you usually need to endure the traffic and traffic lights of the bulk of the city to get there - depending on where your're coming from. Which reminds me...

100% on everything but I want to add Loveland has way better traffic light timing.


Loveland has better sculptures, and the city seems to have figured out how to pick up trash.

Let's wait and see how the new City of Fort Collins collective trash deal works out when it goes into effect in September 2024.

My friend and I always say that Loveland looks like it peaked in the 70s.

Ouch. Tell us how you really feel?

All that being said, the vast majority of all of us can agree on one big difference between the two cities where Loveland has a clear advantage - over even most other cities in the U.S., let alone just Fort Collins:

Loveland Dairy Queen.

Indeed. Recently named the top treat location in the entire United States for the FIFTH year in a row. That's impressive. And a must stop anytime you're cruising 287 north or south. I recommend the cherry dipped cone, but that's just me.

You can check out the full list of differences between the two cities and/or join the conversation by viewing the thread itself on Reddit.

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